Feminism and Crhistianity - A Man's Point of View

Your article is touching. But in reality, in the USA, most women are feminist following false gods in the media.

I’m not going to mention names, but, they are taught to find fault, guilt, imperfections and break a man down.

In today's media the man is the woman's help mate and when he can't or won’t do what she wants him to do, she discards him.

You see in commercials and sitcoms where the woman belittles the man as a joke.

Where does the feminist movement stop?

Sincerely,
I’m a man of God that wishes I could find women that see men as an equal in America.

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feminism isn't the problem...
by: Anonymous

so i want to challenge that feminism is at fault. essentially, feminism is a lens/framework to deconstruct, challenge, and organize against all oppression-- not only gender, but also race, class, sexuality, and it goes on. from there, we move onto very different strains of feminism, some do advocate sameness, some advoate for equity (not equality), and others promote gender essentialism.

you may agree or disagree with feminists frameworks, but one thing feminism does that is very constructive is point out that our society oppresses both men and women. feminism's goal is not to oppress men- it's about destroying patriarchal norms that oppress all of us. basically it gives us language to confront our society that misleads us in many ways, particularly as it relates to gender. from there, you can make your own conclusion about what that should mean

now i'll jump off my feminist soap box :) and also point out that it is some level of blindness to think that the media just depicts men as helpmates and women on top. there are many, many pictures of men leading and women helping, or even both genders sharing roles. anyway, it's men primarily running the media so talk to them. :)

my personal analysis is that the women's movement (or feminist movement) did a great job at opening up opportunities for women and trigger conversation and action on gender oppression (particularly violence against women). in turn, women were able to enter a lot of spaces that had existed as men's spaces and in some ways defined masculinity (e.g. the corporate world, policemen, etc). i think that's part of the reason men have felt threatened by feminism. what i think would be awesome is if men united like women did, and redefined what masculinity means-- without the patriarchal attitudes that supported violence and limited them to certain roles-- and created a new version of masculinity that supports and builds men up, and that creates authentic spaces for conversation on gender equity where no one feels threatened or oppressed.

ok... so i guess i never really left my feminist soap box :)

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so i want to challenge that feminism is at fault. essentially, feminism is a lens/framework to deconstruct, challenge, and organize against all oppression-- not only gender, but also race, class, sexuality, and it goes on. from there, we move onto very different strains of feminism, some do advocate sameness, some advoate for equity (not equality), and others promote gender essentialism. you may agree or disagree with feminists frameworks, but one thing feminism does that is very constructive is point out that our society oppresses both men and women. feminism's goal is not to oppress men- it's about destroying patriarchal norms that oppress all of us. basically it gives us language to confront our society that misleads us in many ways, particularly as it relates to gender. from there, you can make your own conclusion about what that should mean now i'll jump off my feminist soap box :) and also point out that it is some level of blindness to think that the media just depicts men as helpmates and women on top. there are many, many pictures of men leading and women helping, or even both genders sharing roles. anyway, it's men primarily running the media so talk to them. :) my personal analysis is that the women's movement (or feminist movement) did a great job at opening up opportunities for women and trigger conversation and action on gender oppression (particularly violence against women). in turn, women were able to enter a lot of spaces that had existed as men's spaces and in some ways defined masculinity (e.g. the corporate world, policemen, etc). i think that's part of the reason men have felt threatened by feminism. what i think would be awesome is if men united like women did, and redefined what masculinity means-- without the patriarchal attitudes that supported violence and limited them to certain roles-- and created a new version of masculinity that supports and builds men up, and that creates authentic spaces for conversation on gender equity where no one feels threatened or oppressed. ok... so i guess i never really left my feminist soap box :)

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This sounds familiar . . .
by: Anonymous

I have a mixed response to this man's comments. I am seeing a lot of angry males out there with baggage about this issue. I definitely see our culture (especially the media) belittling the male gender in general. Even other males are contributing to this. They seem to want to justify their own bad behaviors by constantly saying that all men are that way, and I know you all know what kinds of things they mean by that. But what they are doing does not help them or other men because they give women, especially impressionable young women, the idea that no man is to be trusted, and that it is better to trust yourself and not be disappointed than to trust in a man. I have had to talk to my young son about this and try to brace him up because he is dating now, and has been taught to treat girls with respect. Many young girls have been taught that no guy is to be trusted and that they have no feelings. However, if all these men who are so angry don't try to get over themselves and their own egos and try to have the understanding which they are so demanding of for themselves, the divide between men and women is only going to get worse.

Men & Women
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I very much agree with this article. I used to be someone who fought to take over every role that I thought was a man's role. I felt I had to prove myself.

But we must remeber that many women who are in that rebellious state did not start out that way. I know I didn't. I was very angry and hurt. My father and mother were divorced due to my father's repeated infidelity and my mother remarried. To my step father, being head of the household held a completely different meaning than what I know it to be today.

To him it meant control. In his opinion woman did not speak directly to God. He felt that God would speak to him and then he to us. If we did not obey it was his responsiblty to hit us. All of his needs were to come first regardless of how anyone else felt.

It was due to this that I ran away from God for so many years. Why would God want me to be in that position.

Today I have a loving husband and I go to a church that teaches that husbands are the head but that they are to love their wifes as Jesus loves the church. My husband is an amazing man. A man that is my head because I respect him, love him cherish him. But he makes it easy because he bends over backwards to earn my respect, loves me, protects me, provides for me, respects me. He never treats me like I am anything but his equal.

Because of the strong christain man/father/husband he is, it is easy to be a good wife. I would never want to be the rebellious girl I was before.

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I very much agree with this article. I used to be someone who fought to take over every role that I thought was a man's role. I felt I had to prove myself. But we must remeber that many women who are in that rebellious state did not start out that way. I know I didn't. I was very angry and hurt. My father and mother were divorced due to my father's repeated infidelity and my mother remarried. To my step father, being head of the household held a completely different meaning than what I know it to be today. To him it meant control. In his opinion woman did not speak directly to God. He felt that God would speak to him and then he to us. If we did not obey it was his responsiblty to hit us. All of his needs were to come first regardless of how anyone else felt. It was due to this that I ran away from God for so many years. Why would God want me to be in that position. Today I have a loving husband and I go to a church that teaches that husbands are the head but that they are to love their wifes as Jesus loves the church. My husband is an amazing man. A man that is my head because I respect him, love him cherish him. But he makes it easy because he bends over backwards to earn my respect, loves me, protects me, provides for me, respects me. He never treats me like I am anything but his equal. Because of the strong christain man/father/husband he is, it is easy to be a good wife. I would never want to be the rebellious girl I was before.

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Equality vs Sameness
by: Ameerah

It's interesting that you bring this up. My husband and I often have this same discussion. It is really a shame that a fight for equality turned into a fight for sameness.

Really, equality and sameness are not the same thing. Men and woman are of equal importance, but we are not the same.

It is just like having two children. They would be equal in importance and value, but that does not mean that both of them are exactly the same: Will they have the same strengths and callings? Of course not!

In fact they would not be the same at all, and that is what makes each one unique.

It's also sad to see that, as if they did not take the fight too far by making it a fight for sameness, it has now become a fight for superiority. And, yes, you can see it in the media and in many marriages today.

Many women treat their husbands like children and subconsciously think they are mentally superior to their mates. They treat their men like a joke and then wonder why their marriages are falling apart, or their mates are falling prey to the first woman that shows them the respect that they crave.

Really, it is a travesty! So many women are missing out on the joy and peace that comes with being "in your place" and not trying to fight someone else for theirs.

Many will even read that statement and say, 'What do you mean in my place? I don't have a place that I need to stay in!'

Oh really? So, you don't think that before the foundations of the world, God created a specific place for you. A place of equality and honor? And, if we do believe it, then why do we all feel such a need to try and go out and steal the man's rightful place and, with it, his dignity?

Anyway, I could go on and on. But, I won't...

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It's interesting that you bring this up. My husband and I often have this same discussion. It is really a shame that a fight for equality turned into a fight for sameness. Really, equality and sameness are not the same thing. Men and woman are of equal importance, but we are not the same. It is just like having two children. They would be equal in importance and value, but that does not mean that both of them are exactly the same: Will they have the same strengths and callings? Of course not! In fact they would not be the same at all, and that is what makes each one unique. It's also sad to see that, as if they did not take the fight too far by making it a fight for sameness, it has now become a fight for superiority. And, yes, you can see it in the media and in many marriages today. Many women treat their husbands like children and subconsciously think they are mentally superior to their mates. They treat their men like a joke and then wonder why their marriages are falling apart, or their mates are falling prey to the first woman that shows them the respect that they crave. Really, it is a travesty! So many women are missing out on the joy and peace that comes with being "in your place" and not trying to fight someone else for theirs. Many will even read that statement and say, 'What do you mean in my place? I don't have a place that I need to stay in!' Oh really? So, you don't think that before the foundations of the world, God created a specific place for you. A place of equality and honor? And, if we do believe it, then why do we all feel such a need to try and go out and steal the man's rightful place and, with it, his dignity? Anyway, I could go on and on. But, I won't...

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